José Gomes, also known as "Zé do
Purgatório" or Zé Mastercrow, has been a very active person in the
Portuguese heavy metal scene, since the early 80's, in the Fan Club Purgatório
of Heavy Metal, in Fanzine "Folha Metálica", in the band Wild Shadow and
later as member of the band Ravensire. We had a conversation with José Gomes in
order to know more about these and other subjects.
Q. - Tell us a little bit about how your
interest in hard rock and heavy metal in general started, and how the idea of
forming the first fan club in Portugal came up as well?
José Gomes - Hello Paulo and readers. Portugal, back then,
was a very poor country and culturally obsolete. We were with a 5 years
Democracy after a long Dictatorship.
Rock music in general wasn't available for
everyone. Radio Shows dedicated to the several genres were just starting. The
first international acts were just showing up for the first live shows. There
were a couple of music newspapers and backpages small articles on the bigger
headlines Journals - but their content was rudimentar. To listen to Rock music
was something almost exclusive of the higher classes (because it was
fashionable) or musicians (because they needed to learn a bit of everything).
I guess my kind of personality always was too
much of a misfit to listen to disco-sound haha. So, that's how i started.
Reading international mags, Listening on Long Distance Radio the Hard-Rock
shows of France and England and gathering with people with same interest so we
could exchange records,etc.
Also, most of my friends know it, but i had the
luck to have as a close friend and neighbour a guy that had some Rock,
Prog-Rock and Hard-Rock Lps.
So, while he was eating his girlfriend on the
next room, i was eating his records.
The idea of having a club dedicated to
Heavy-Metal, actually came up after i read on a french "Rock &
Folk" about the French Heavy-Metal Association.
The Project had as a target to give useful
information to fans not living on the big cities and eventually to organize
live shows with portuguese bands.
Q. - In 1984, you were behind the first heavy metal
festival in Portugal, organized by "Purgatório Fan-Club", that took
place in "Santo António dos Cavaleiros", was it hard to find the
bands to play in the festival?
José Gomes - Yes, I was one of those 6 or 7 young kids
(since we were all 17 or 18 yrs old) who organized everything. It was easy to find the bands because there
were just a few around.
Q. - What memories do you keep from those days? Why
didn't you repeat the experience?
José Gomes - Well, it was a hard
experience. On the last minute at the day of the Festival surfaced many
problems and mistakes of us, the organization, as lack of licenses to have such
a live event. People living near the event didn't like what they saw with
several hundreds of long hair dudes and the noise of the music. The energy
system of the pavilion wasn't enough to support the lights and PA sound. Also
the bands of the north of Portugal were cooler and all the 3 played with same
backline while the 3 from the south, each one wished to play with their own.
That make a lot of time retard between the change of backline and the next live
show. All this with the pavilion already packed with audience. Yeah, we started
organizing a 2nd Festival and with the support of the French leg of Purgatorio
do Heavy Metal (we distributed also some zines to France, because we had French
friends there) we were about to bring as headliner H-Bomb, since 2 of the
members were from Portuguese blood. In the end, problems with H-Bomb changing
line-up and other type of stuff avoid us to keep organizing it. Luckily,
Defensores Da Fé fan-club and Metal Army started organizing the metal
afternoons on Rock Rendez Vous and we all thought the venue and conditions were
perfect and the people doing it (some of them were ex-Purgatorio) were highly
motivated.Q. - Around 1985, you, Quinito and Paulo "Grande" started Wild Shadow, how did this idea come up?
José Gomes - Yep - we were all friends already
and for some years. At the time we were already veterans of our scene. I recall
Quinito by that time travelled to Holland to watch live Warlock supporting
Judas Priest and to buy the guitar of his dreams. None of us knew how to play
or how to sing but we thought if we dedicated hard on the rehearsals we could
do it. The idea came after we organized and watched the performances and level
of the portuguese bands on the 1st Portuguese Heavy-Metal Festival back in
1984. We really thought we could do something on our own.
So, we invested on our backline. We even bought
a double bass Staccato yellow drum kit to Tarantula. I also invested on a very
good Shure and P.A. and had a rack of delay with which i could do some of my screams.
But to be honest we mostly rehearsing for ourselves and for some friends who
liked us. We always thought we had a ton to learn before an official
presentation. That's why the 1st show of the band was only in 1990 to support
Alkateya.
Q. - Was it difficult to recruit the other
members for the band?
José Gomes - There were 2 things difficult yes -
a steady place to rehearsal. None wanted us - we were too much noisy for them
haha. So, we were always jumping from 1 place to the other.
It was easy to find guys and try them for 1
month or so.
The problem was to find cool guys who could
keep a discipline and involvement in the band. And most important - to stay
longer times. There was always something more important than music.
Q. - Did you accumulate functions as Wild
Shadow vocalist and in the fan club as well?
José Gomes - No, i quit the club and dedicate myself only to
the band and my life.
You can't imagine the hundreds of phone calls
and letters and people requesting meetings...
Things were just starting after the 1st Maiden
show in 1984 for a lot of youngsters and they saw me as someone who could
provide them what they wanted. Obviously am not.
Q. - Many times you have lent some records to
radios, for example to the "Lança Chamas" program, was it difficult
to get access to the metallic news and albums in the early 80's?
José Gomes - Yes - i lent records to the Lança Chamas show.
Wasn't the only around doing that. The good albums you could only get them by
import. I had several strategies - it all depended the country origin from
where i was buying. I had a friend that was going to Spain 1 time each month.
So, he was bringing with him some Heavy Rock mags and some spanish metal.
From France i had other strategy. To german
metal i knew a guy that made big bucks buying to a German distro or directly to
the label, all Sodoms and Hellhammers he could get. Of course for me he had to
find other things.
To buy Scandinavian, or Belgian or Dutch or
British or US Metal i was buying directly through a records catalogue that
after i got to a national bank and swapped Portuguese money for pounds i did
hide well inside a letter and picked the stuff. If i remember correctly i was
doing it with COB Records and Gema Records.
I never had any problems and after 10 days / 2
weeks there they were the records on a turntable near to me.
Q. - Was it hard for a heavy metal band to play
in Portugal in the 1980s?
José Gomes - Hard ? Impossible. 1 Rock-Club existing in
Lisbon. And almost exclusivity to Pop or Vanguard or stupid shit like that.
They were surprised when the metalheads packed
their house with increasing shows.
Q. - Do you recall the "Metal Lusitano"
sessions to record the supposed first heavy metal compilation in Portugal,
around 88? Do you know what went wrong?
José Gomes - Yes, I think I went to
all shows and the other afternoon sessions before as well. Or at least almost
all. I think someone had the copyrights to release it on double vinyl. Someone
from the organization, from Rock Rendez Vous and from a label, I think Polygram
was the one. I still know who has the license part of the organization with the
copyrights of that but the other parts involved vanished. I think lack of money
was the probable cause as usually at that time.Q. - When did you decide to leave Wild Shadow, and why?
José Gomes - 1990. Couldn't go on with it. And wasn't giving
what the band needed.
Q. - What do you feel when you look back to the
90's when the survival of heavy metal bands was very difficult?
José Gomes - Heavy-Metal was always present even with lesser
bands. It wasn't as popular as it was in the past but bands were making albums.
And fans were still there.
To look for newer bands you just couldn't
expect anymore the mainstream big labels to respond. Everything went
underground.
It was the time of the rise of extreme metal -
which i don't have any problems in saying curious as i am i also listened a
fair share.
That's why i can't listen it anymore (because i
know it well) not even a second. Heavy-Metal is the purest form of all
"Metals".
Call what you will !
Q. - What do you think was most important for
heavy metal resurgence? Do you think that the contact among the fans through
the internet could have been fundamental?
José Gomes - I don't know if there is a
"resurgence" now. There are many bands i don't lose a second with it.
I kind of smell them.
I normally don't like this type of guys that
yesterday played in a Black-Metal band, today they play in a Black/Thrash band
and tomorrow they say they are masters of Speed-Metal...I definitely do not
trust them or their loyalty to the music.
Q. - You were the lead singer of Ravensire's
first ep, Iron Will, do you remember how and when came the Ravensire's interest
for you to join the band? What memories do you keep from that time?
José Gomes - Well, they heard about me and my past. They
were needing a singer. I thought and i thought and one day i was inside their
rehearsing room.
We tried to blend our styles. And i do think we
got a good result and even if i already left the band several years ago we
remain good friends and we all agree i helped the band somehow seeing in what
direction should the band go - even if in their case, it's so natural.
It was an easy collaboration and we appreciated
what we all did.
Q. - What balance do you make of so many years
of dedication to heavy metal?
José Gomes - It's my life.
Q. - Are you still in touch with former members
of Wild Shadow and Purgatório do Metal?
José Gomes - Yes - but not too often. We all have different
responsibilities.
Q. - In your opinion, what are the main
differences between the 1980s and the reality of today?
José Gomes - In 1983 the Whitesnake show had to be delayed 1
day after what happened on the door and that spreaded to the whole location.
That's unthinkable today. (Note #1)
Q. - Would you still like to do a new heavy
metal project?
José Gomes - No, I'm done with that. Retired forevermore
hahahaha !!!!
Q. - Anything else you'd like to say? As far as
I´m concerned, I would like to thank you for your time and wish you all the
best in the future!
José Gomes - It was a pleasure Paulo.
Note #1 - It was lots of problems on the entry with police than it spreaded to
the whole village more than 100 arrested for bad behaviour and lots of property
damaged. Specially on cars and houses Than the organizer asked Whitesnake to
stay 1 more day/night and play the gig on the next day. We were lots of peace,
forming queues to enter the pavilion - I can assure. People sitting on the
ground, forming queues than arrived the police on their cars and were brutal
and broke all queues unnecessarily.